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Mrs Harris Active Moderator


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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: David Brown with plough at Newby Hall |
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Looks a tough pull for this little tractor but we were assured it could work it
 _________________ Shelley
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bikerdave Member 1000 club


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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would have to see that. I don't think it would get enough traction if the plows were in the ground. _________________ 2005 Craftsman LT-1000, 1977 1450 Cub Cadet, 1969 110 John Deere + 2006 Honda VTX 1300S and looking |
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carpman15 Moderator


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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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yea i think that the traction would be a big problem if it has enough power i dont think itd have the traction _________________ 1941 Farmall M (she lives again after 30 years)
old stationary buzz saw know nothing about it
Mc Cormick-Deering No 3?? single bottom |
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jd2840 Active Moderator


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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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its a simple thing. that tractor just carrys the plow to the field so the deere doesnt have too. tehn they hook it up to a JD  _________________ -Ray-
My collection counting both grandpa's
1937 Farmall F-20
1939 Allis Chalmers B
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1944 Farmall M
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1955 4400 Chevy Truck
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Lyn Jones Member


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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi.
Here's proof that the tractor can work that plow. I've seen it in operation a few times. The attached photo's were taken at the Onslow Park Rally last year.
Lyn.
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carpman15 Moderator


Joined: May 12 2010 User's Age: (22) Posts: 486 Location: south central wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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the "points" look more like a chisel plow than a regular plow the arent a wide flat share there short why is that easier to pull? _________________ 1941 Farmall M (she lives again after 30 years)
old stationary buzz saw know nothing about it
Mc Cormick-Deering No 3?? single bottom |
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scooby Member


Joined: May 02 2010 User's Age: N/A Posts: 28 Location: Warwickshire. U.K.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: |
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If I could add a little more information about the DB 6 furrow plough :
The plough is owned by Bill Banks and is usually used by John Hooson who is seen here pulling it with his 990 Implematic. At the time when this tractor and plough were made most implements would be used on the 3 point linkage (I think it is just called the 3pt in the U.S.A). Remember that we have smaller fields in the U.K. and in those days tractors (and implements) were much smaller than they are now. A mounted plough is much easier to handle than a trailed one.
But we do have parts of the U.K. where fields are quite large (plenty of 100 acre fields in Lincolnshire and Wiltshire) and farmers were asking for larger ploughs, especially in those two counties where there is some lighter soils. And so about half a dozen 6 furrow (botttom) ploughs were designed and made to see if they would sell. The shares are standard shares for the bodies and would cut the width of the furrow when new. It is not a chisel point.
The design was very clever. It utilised the David Brown TCU (Traction Control Unit) element of the tractor's hydraulic system. This transferred the weight from the plough to the lower linkage to the tractor without using the conventional top link. The Chairman of the David Brown Tractor Club, Mr. Peter Murray, was a demonstrator at the time and he explained the principle to me and not only is it quite ingenious but it works.
I have put some some video on YouTube which shows the plough being used by John Hooson. The soil was a nice bit of dirt but was hard and compacted and when John lets it into the ground she sits down to it well. It is just possible to see the huge amount of weights on the front of the tractor which are necessary to counteract the weight being taken off the plough. Unfortunately the viewer will have to wait until nearly the end of the video before seeing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQKC_f40wGM
But things moved on and farmers decided that they wanted to plough with reversible ploughs and the 6 furrow DB plough never really took off. My main criticism about the plough is that there aren't any skims on it and so the rubbish isn't being buried very well.
If anyone wants any more information then just ask.
David G Lewis. Club Director and on-line shop Mamager of www.dbtc.co.uk |
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Richard Sturdy Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: |
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It's a bit like the Fergy which regularly pulls a 4 furrow plough at working events - the tractor will manage ok in light ground and ideal conditions, but show it some tough ground with a damp surface and it has no chance. Maybe that's why Case needed to take over David Brown - Case had tractors which would play with that 6 furrow outfit under any conditions  _________________ Tricky Dickie |
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scooby Member


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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| Richard Sturdy wrote: | Case had tractors which would play with that 6 furrow outfit under any conditions  |
Not when that Implematic was made they didn't. Certainly not in this country. And DB went on to make tractors that "would play with that plough" before the demise of DB. I've got one of them.
The Maxum originated from the DB 1694 prototypes that never went into production at Meltham. |
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Other thing I have noticed too is your bottoms and shares are a lot smaller than ours here, I'm pulling 6-18's(until it sprung the frame) with a 1030 CASE, now I'm down to a 5 bottom.
 _________________ Jim
Lot's of Quality CASE Equipment used and serviced here! |
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carpman15 Moderator


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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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that was exactly what i noticed too jim i thought they looked more like chisel plow points _________________ 1941 Farmall M (she lives again after 30 years)
old stationary buzz saw know nothing about it
Mc Cormick-Deering No 3?? single bottom |
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bikerdave Member 1000 club


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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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My garden tractor pulls a larger share (10in), but only one. Six of them is still impressive. _________________ 2005 Craftsman LT-1000, 1977 1450 Cub Cadet, 1969 110 John Deere + 2006 Honda VTX 1300S and looking |
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Red Kiwi Active Moderator


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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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He's not ploughing very deep,  _________________ 1948 W6; 1945 M: 1939 A: 1950 Super A: 1946 Cub:
1955 FC-C ; Inter. B414;
Inter. 203 Combine;
Inter. B46 Baler;..
Little Genius No. 8 3 furrow plough..
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scooby Member


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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the same outfit also pulling a 770 with a 2 furrow plough. The engine is running on the 770 to keep the plough at the right depth but the tractor isn't in gear.
And if you want to see the plough at a decent depth have a look at the end of this video. My only complaint is that he isn't using any skims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQKC_f40wGM |
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Nick@KY Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I am impressed !!! Thanks for the pictures.I like seeing how it's done in other parts of the world. Nick |
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