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Just a little story about our F-30. last night i had some friends over showing them the tractor shed and Pinky as she has been named now. And i wanted to crank the F-30 it has a sound unlike any of the others deep and throaty slow revolutions. I stuck the crank handle on the crank shaft shoved the whole thing in and Went to give it the first turn and have it fire right up. I don't really know where it went wrong at that point of my first revolution but what i suspect happened is that the crank handle the detents for the cross bar on the crank shaft are a little worn out. And it is the only crank we have that the handle actually spins on it. the crank let go of the tractor and caught me right up side my temple. Man that right smarted, stumbling back and half thinking that it had back fired and the crank spun the wrong way and caught me. i wasnt quit sure what had happened till the guy who was standing there told me. Made a loud noise and i felt it just the same. Today i got a good knot on my temple and i can't chew real well on my left side, but all in all i got that 30 started last night with just one more good turn of the crank after i gained my bearings.
 

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Im not very well trained on hand starting tractors. Ive done it but not on a big ole tractor like that ;)
Thumb out is all I know and not sure if I should pull up or push down :oops:
 

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Im not very well trained on hand starting tractors. Ive done it but not on a big ole tractor like that ;)
Thumb out is all I know and not sure if I should pull up or push down :oops:
I was taught to Pull Up
 

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I had to wear a cast for 5 weeks because I forgot to retard the spark on my F14. (See casemans post of F series)
 

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bertman said:
Im not very well trained on hand starting tractors. Ive done it but not on a big ole tractor like that ;)
Thumb out is all I know and not sure if I should pull up or push down :oops:
I was taught to Pull Up
Me too! It kinda makes me nervous when I see these guys spinning it like a modle T or something.
 

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You were very lucky, it could have been a lot worse. Always pull up and never put your thumb over the top of the handle. I've got 2 scars to prove it, one on my right eye and the other on my temple.
 

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Mine was an old 1 cylinder Cat pull grader. Little short crank, BIG old engine. I cranked it, it backfired and the handle caught the back of my right wrist and snapped it back. It was laying on the back of my arm. 6 weeks in a cast. surgery to break it so it could set right, then 12 more weeks in a cast. Another surgery to repair the little bone in the thumb that they missed. Still after 30 years, have very little strength in my thumb. Using a cutting torch just makes it ache for days....James
 

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I watched some videos of me early on trying to start some of Harolds and shake my head at how lucky I was, you always hear him in the backround yelling at me about doing it wrong too :lol: Last time I worked on a case C of his it was finally the proper way ;)
 

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i only pulled up and thumb out of the way. the handle itself slipped off the shaft that connects to the engine crank, like i was removing the crank after it started but i was in the middle of pulling up fast when it slipped off and clocked me up side the head. I have done the whirling like a helicopter but have since quit if it don't start in an upward pull, i pull it with another tractor to start it.
 

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Whew! Sounds like a close call, glad you're realtively speaking, uninjured! I really enjoy handcrankin' my F-Cub, but that's alittle different that handcrankin' my "M", which I haven't...and really don't have the notion to.
 

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Been there too, the crank handle on my old Case hit me in the jaw once, cut the flesh for 2 inch and made a long scar but miss the jawbone. That was 30 years ago and i never crank a tractor since but still have that 3 1/2 inch scar.

Westazur :roll:
 

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Love starting them on the crank. Never had that happen and hope I never do. I always try to start them on the upswing. Hope you aint hurt to bad.
 

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I always pull up. The best way to do it is to go from about 10 o'clock over to around 1 (or wherever the piston hits tdc). I've never had a problem that way except for when I don't get enough umph to get it to go over compression and it throws the crank back. That's not the tractors fault, but mine for being too cautious.
 

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I remember hand cranking a Super A at about twelve or so. Yes it had an electric starter, but it broke and we needed the tractor. No thumb over the crank and pull up! I thought we started at about eight o'clock and stopped at noon if it didn't start. Long time ago!
 

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That sounds about right where the crank starts getting compression is around eight oclock on the handle.
 

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There's a reason they made electric starters!
I am with ya on this one Dave. I have used a crank, but like turnin' keys or pushing buttons better. :D
 

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Whew! Sounds like a close call, glad you're realtively speaking, uninjured! I really enjoy handcrankin' my F-Cub, but that's alittle different that handcrankin' my "M", which I haven't...and really don't have the notion to.

A H is pretty fun to crank. I will crank mine for fun...the M is another story. in the past we hand cranked it when the battery was dead. Never kicked back or anything but that big ol engine is a little stiff to turn over and it used to be pretty cranky to start, though it always did...well and still does
 

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Always pull up on the handle. If You are pushing down and it fires backward You are directly in line of the travel of the handle. Always pull up so if the engine fires back it will kick the handle out of Your hand. Also use the 4 fingertip policy. Use no more of Your fingers than necessary with the thumb back out of the way. When one back fires the reasons will show themselves.
 
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