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this tractor and sign on the front says it all
 

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I think there was so much compatition back then, and now, that everyone is copying from everybody. That's why the 3 pt hitch became standard equipment. That's why the turbo started being used for higher hp's.

Even patented things eventually got copied in some way or form.

Just my opinion ;)
 

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I thought the 3 point was optional on most 1950's equipment as most farmers still had horse drawn equipment. Or at least that is what some one led me to believe. I am open to be corrected.
 

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I thought the 3 point was optional on most 1950's equipment as most farmers still had horse drawn equipment. Or at least that is what some one led me to believe. I am open to be corrected.
Someone invented it though (Ferguson I think) but Henry Ford claimed it when the Ford Ferguson seperated. That's just what I've read somewhere :?: :?: :?: Someone please chime in on that one :)

My point is, that's just how the world gets better. Someone copies anothers thoughts or product and somehow makes it just a little bit better. Where would this world be if we were still using the room size computers from the 60's and 70's? It just my way of thinking I guess.
 

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A lot of things were happening in the 50's to get more horsepower. Detroit engines were cheap and plentiful after the war so they got used a lot. I have seen Farmall M's and Case D and L-LA with 3-71 and 4-71 engines put in to get more horsepower. Sure took JD a long time to perfect the New Generation concept and get it out there. But then it took Farmall a long time to change from the Original Farmal-F-20-M-400-450-560 to get to the large frame Farmall. The 460-560 and 3010-4010 had some growing pains....James
 

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ferguson did come up with the modern convention of the draft sensing hyd lift / 3pt setup.

there were other draft sensing hitches along the way as well.. the 3pt just ended up becoming a good standard to go by.

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soundguy said:
ferguson did come up with the modern convention of the draft sensing hyd lift / 3pt setup.

there were other draft sensing hitches along the way as well.. the 3pt just ended up becoming a good standard to go by.

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I agree, Harry Ferguson did come up with the 3pt. linkage.around the early 40's.
The Detroit diesels were fitted to a couple of a hundred Farmall M's, as a trial, then they put their own 4 cylinder petrol start diesels in the M's & W6/s, that was around the early 40's too.
 

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even earlier..try 30's.. the 9n came out in 39, and harry had a working design well before he teemed with ford..

by the time th early 40's were here, the 2n was already out ( 42 yr modle.. )

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I so love the sound of a two stroke diesel
neat to see that some of the test units survive
 
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