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Hi there, i’m new to this forum and was looking for help regarding my 1958 John Deere 420 Crawler. I can only get spark out of one of the plugs on my distributor. I got a new cap hoping that was the problem and it isn’t. It will fire good only out of the rear cylinder. If I clock the distributor so that the cap is in the position for the forward cylinder I can get that cylinder to fire so I know it isn’t a dead hole or bad plug of wire. Is there anything i’m just not thinking of? I’m a young guy so I may not know as much as I think I do. Any help will be appreciated. Also is there a way so I can attach a video to this so I can better show what the issue is?
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is it just start doing that or what are circumstances leading up to one cyl only ?
Most likely you have the plug wires switched and distributor (or its shaft) rotated to wrong position, so that one of the plugs is firing between exhaust and intake strokes instead of compression and power.
Most likely you have the plug wires switched and distributor (or its shaft) rotated to wrong position, so that one of the plugs is firing between exhaust and intake strokes instead of compression and power.
My confusion with that is that the cylinders both fire when plugged into the same spot in the cap if I rotate them to where they’re supposed to be. The video shows that both plugs and wires are good. It also shows that the distributor is clocked to the correct position. It’s like it uses up all the energy on the first spark and can’t spark a second time. Is it possible it’s a bad coil? Condenser? Still a faulty cap? To reply to the other question i’m unsure when it started happening. Maybe 4 years ago? I haven’t had to use it too much so it hasn’t been a massive issue it’s just something I would like to figure out.
My confusion with that is that the cylinders both fire when plugged into the same spot in the cap if I rotate them to where they’re supposed to be. The video shows that both plugs and wires are good. It also shows that the distributor is clocked to the correct position. It’s like it uses up all the energy on the first spark and can’t spark a second time. Is it possible it’s a bad coil? Condenser? Still a faulty cap? To reply to the other question i’m unsure when it started happening. Maybe 4 years ago? I haven’t had to use it too much so it hasn’t been a massive issue it’s just something I would like to figure out.
To make good spark, the points must be closed long enough for current to ramp up near maximum, then when the points open the collapsing magnetic field produces spark. So if the points are badly misadjusted, right on the edge of working, it is possible for the distributor cam to either not be closing or not opening the points for one of the cylinders. This could also happen if the distributor bushings are worn out, letting the shaft slop around. Since you changed the cap, I'd think it unlikely that both old and new are bad. And the same coil and condenser fire both cylinders, so those also seem unlikely. I still like my earlier guess, but check the points condition and gap and shaft slop and make sure the points are opening and closing twice. And here's a quick check you might be able to do without special equipment - pull the coil wire out of the center of the distributor and plug it onto a spark plug lying on the frame or somewhere grounded (not the fuel tank), watch it while cranking the engine and see if you get two sparks. You can also do similar with the plug wires, expecting one spark at each cylinder.
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