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How hard on gas is the 60? Some one has offered me a 60 in trade for my 420c. I am concerned that its motor being a 5.3 litre engine is a gas guzzler?
My John Deere 60 project
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Mine is not economical at all, but its fun to drive!
Mine is not economical at all, but its fun to drive!
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I don't know about that but I think it might be illegal to refer to John Deere two cylinder engine displacement in liters. :lol: Those are good ol' fashioned, American cubic inches!
I don't know about that but I think it might be illegal to refer to John Deere two cylinder engine displacement in liters. :lol: Those are good ol' fashioned, American cubic inches!
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If all goes well, this might be my tractor that I will be swapping my 420c for.
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If all goes well, this might be my tractor that I will be swapping my 420c for.
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Have you checked around to get an idea on the values of the two. I would think that your crawler would be worth more than a 60.
Have you checked around to get an idea on the values of the two. I would think that your crawler would be worth more than a 60.
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This is the only person that has followed through for the trade. Now I have to figure out what to do about my trailer. The deck is 5' wide by 12' long. I could extend the sides by 12", giving me a max width of 87".
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This is the only person that has followed through for the trade. Now I have to figure out what to do about my trailer. The deck is 5' wide by 12' long. I could extend the sides by 12", giving me a max width of 87".
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New question.
The owner said the fan is loose. From what I can tell by the picture below, the fan has some form of a clutch? Can it be tightened? Or do I replace the #6's with new washers?
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New question.
The owner said the fan is loose. From what I can tell by the picture below, the fan has some form of a clutch? Can it be tightened? Or do I replace the #6's with new washers?
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They probably mean that it has excessive play in the governor. When the gears need re-shimmed, you can turn the fan back and forth and have a little slop in the gears. Doesn't take much to take out the shims, unless its already done. If you were looking for something of value, that's a JD wide front, and is worth more than the aftermarket ones, especially if it came with that wide front.
They probably mean that it has excessive play in the governor. When the gears need re-shimmed, you can turn the fan back and forth and have a little slop in the gears. Doesn't take much to take out the shims, unless its already done. If you were looking for something of value, that's a JD wide front, and is worth more than the aftermarket ones, especially if it came with that wide front.
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Me thinks your gonna need a new trailer!
Me thinks your gonna need a new trailer!
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Yes on the trailer. I am hoping to get away by extending the sides with some 3" channel on the sides. The trailer max width is 87", so 1.5 inches on the sides it will be tight. Planning to weld some plate to make walls to the extensions so the tractor cant slip off the sides. Would be nice if I could sell the trailer and just get new, but oh well.
I inspected the fan today. There is a good quarter inch of slop. The fan really wiggles about. I am hoping the shims will correct it and not more than that. I am already committed to the trade. So no going back now. A few friends have seen it and feel I have done well to trade one headache for a different one. LOL
This is just a fan, it is not the power steering fan.
Yes on the trailer. I am hoping to get away by extending the sides with some 3" channel on the sides. The trailer max width is 87", so 1.5 inches on the sides it will be tight. Planning to weld some plate to make walls to the extensions so the tractor cant slip off the sides. Would be nice if I could sell the trailer and just get new, but oh well.
I inspected the fan today. There is a good quarter inch of slop. The fan really wiggles about. I am hoping the shims will correct it and not more than that. I am already committed to the trade. So no going back now. A few friends have seen it and feel I have done well to trade one headache for a different one. LOL
This is just a fan, it is not the power steering fan.
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For the shims, you actually take them out to tighten up the fan. It doesn't take much slop in the gears to make that fan blade loose. If you are lucky, it will still have a bunch of shims in it and you'll be able to get by with just pulling them out, if not, you might be looking at getting different gears to fix that (if you want to), but it is a common problem with them so nothing to be worried about. I'll have to post up pictures of our 70. Looks pretty much the same.
For the shims, you actually take them out to tighten up the fan. It doesn't take much slop in the gears to make that fan blade loose. If you are lucky, it will still have a bunch of shims in it and you'll be able to get by with just pulling them out, if not, you might be looking at getting different gears to fix that (if you want to), but it is a common problem with them so nothing to be worried about. I'll have to post up pictures of our 70. Looks pretty much the same.
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Forgive me.... Gears??? There are no gears in the fan construction. Please refer to drawing and tell me the number so I know what you are referring to.
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I am replacing the two #6
Forgive me.... Gears??? There are no gears in the fan construction. Please refer to drawing and tell me the number so I know what you are referring to.
I am replacing the two #6
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Your trailer may need a bit more consideration. For one, you're probably going to need to move your ramps out as wide as you plan on widening the trailer. Second, you gotta make sure your front axle is narrow enough to make it between the fenders on your trailer.
Your trailer may need a bit more consideration. For one, you're probably going to need to move your ramps out as wide as you plan on widening the trailer. Second, you gotta make sure your front axle is narrow enough to make it between the fenders on your trailer.
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I measured the width of the tractor, the rears are the widest part. The ramps will get small gussets that will support the tires. The front tires are not going between the fenders. If I modify the trailer a wall will stick up on the fenders as well. I am planning to drive the front tires up and over the fenders to gussets with a 2x12? plank on other side (more walls to keep tire from tracking off sides). The fenders will only be 5 inches tall from top of plank to top of fender.
This is assuming I cant find a buyer for the trailer, otherwise I will buy a new 7x18 car trailer from TBA
http://www.tbatires.com/inventory-trailers.asp?cat=1611
I measured the width of the tractor, the rears are the widest part. The ramps will get small gussets that will support the tires. The front tires are not going between the fenders. If I modify the trailer a wall will stick up on the fenders as well. I am planning to drive the front tires up and over the fenders to gussets with a 2x12? plank on other side (more walls to keep tire from tracking off sides). The fenders will only be 5 inches tall from top of plank to top of fender.
This is assuming I cant find a buyer for the trailer, otherwise I will buy a new 7x18 car trailer from TBA
http://www.tbatires.com/inventory-trailers.asp?cat=1611
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I just showed the wife my intentions for the trailer. LOL She said I must sell the trailer. No way am I going to do it, it will kill her in panic when I try to load it.
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I just showed the wife my intentions for the trailer. LOL She said I must sell the trailer. No way am I going to do it, it will kill her in panic when I try to load it.
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So your going to drive on and off over the fenders???
Be careful when buying one of those car hauler trailers, some are rated at 7K with 2 3,500lb axles but you got to subtract the weight of the trailer so that only leaves you like 5K for the evenly distributed load and a wide front 60 probably weighs in around 6K and is not "evenly distributable"
I got a 2006 16' trailer rated at 7K that I have hauled my A on a few times and it does not like it, it flexes in unhealthy ways and the spot welds on the fenders broke.
I guess it depends on how much and how far you plan to haul it But I'd recommend a deckover gooseneck.
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So your going to drive on and off over the fenders???
Be careful when buying one of those car hauler trailers, some are rated at 7K with 2 3,500lb axles but you got to subtract the weight of the trailer so that only leaves you like 5K for the evenly distributed load and a wide front 60 probably weighs in around 6K and is not "evenly distributable"
I got a 2006 16' trailer rated at 7K that I have hauled my A on a few times and it does not like it, it flexes in unhealthy ways and the spot welds on the fenders broke.
I guess it depends on how much and how far you plan to haul it But I'd recommend a deckover gooseneck.
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Here are some trailer pics for reference;
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Looks like if I sell, I will have to build my own trailer. Not the first time, certainly not the last.
Looks like if I sell, I will have to build my own trailer. Not the first time, certainly not the last.
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Unless I have my models mixed up, the fan is attached to a shaft that runs back toward the transmission, and is driven off of the governor there. Unless the fan blade itself is loose, if you can grab ahold of the fan blade and turn the blade and you can watch the shaft move, then your gears need re-shimmed. I was told by a john deere restorer that if the play is more than 20 thousandths, it needs tightened up. The gears that drive it are back over the engine block, not up by the fan blade. Hope that cleared things up a little bit. I could be complicating things and your fan blade itself could be loose and not play in the gears.
Let me know
Unless I have my models mixed up, the fan is attached to a shaft that runs back toward the transmission, and is driven off of the governor there. Unless the fan blade itself is loose, if you can grab ahold of the fan blade and turn the blade and you can watch the shaft move, then your gears need re-shimmed. I was told by a john deere restorer that if the play is more than 20 thousandths, it needs tightened up. The gears that drive it are back over the engine block, not up by the fan blade. Hope that cleared things up a little bit. I could be complicating things and your fan blade itself could be loose and not play in the gears.
Let me know
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Ok, that makes sense. However, in this case we are not dealing with backlash from the gears. The original owner thought "rivets" had broken. When I looked at the fan I could see that the friction washers were non existent. The fan (if you hold onto it with your hand) can be turned freely separate to the shaft. My biggest concern is that the keeper on the end of the shaft may lose the retainers, as they do not have the spring tension to keep them in place. I suspect that a spring may also be damaged. As the friction washers (even if missing) should still be pinching the fan to some extent.
I will post a picture of the actual fan tomorrow when the tractor gets delivered.
Can you tell me the dimensions of the foot ladder off the axle? Mine is missing and I need to make a new one. I know I could buy one, yet I am poor so it is easier for me to make a replacement for now.
Ok, that makes sense. However, in this case we are not dealing with backlash from the gears. The original owner thought "rivets" had broken. When I looked at the fan I could see that the friction washers were non existent. The fan (if you hold onto it with your hand) can be turned freely separate to the shaft. My biggest concern is that the keeper on the end of the shaft may lose the retainers, as they do not have the spring tension to keep them in place. I suspect that a spring may also be damaged. As the friction washers (even if missing) should still be pinching the fan to some extent.
I will post a picture of the actual fan tomorrow when the tractor gets delivered.
Can you tell me the dimensions of the foot ladder off the axle? Mine is missing and I need to make a new one. I know I could buy one, yet I am poor so it is easier for me to make a replacement for now.
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Ok so here is the small vid of the fan being loose.
Ok so here is the small vid of the fan being loose.
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