[missouri massey man]

Went to the CNH site and got more confused...that's easy anyway.

3 Cylinder gasser and faded 4000 decal.

Under the hood: Tractor # 6292715
Model# 1424C
Unit # 1A07B
Engine# 0C06A

On the starter housing: 0E25B
AE7023

Thanks guys.

 

[Ernie N Ky]

4000 SU maybe? That's the utility special 4000 with 3000 style front axle.

 

[missouri massey man]

4000 SU maybe? That's the utility special 4000 with 3000 style front axle.

As good of guess as any Ernie, because it does have what I think is a light duty front.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Try this
http://www.springfieldbiz.com/oaktree/fordtractor.htm
click on production codes
Even though I have had a couple of post '65 3cyl ford I tend to stay with the pre '65 4cyl. I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. I sure when soundguy comes on he will help you out.

Kirk

 

[soundguy]

post a pic of the front bolster showingthe axle and connection back to the steering box.. also show a pic of the rear axle.

 

[BigDaveinKY]

Went to the CNH site and got more confused...that's easy anyway.

3 Cylinder gasser and faded 4000 decal.

Under the hood: Tractor # 6292715
Model# 1424C
Unit # 1A07B
Engine# 0C06A

On the starter housing: 0E25B
AE7023

Thanks guys.

Couple of things seem to be missin' Wendell. Like in the photo of mine, the numbers need a letter in front.
That denotes the model: B-2000, C-3000, D-4000, E-5000

Also, the tractor serial number should be on the housing just above the two numbers on the flat spot behind the starter. Starting with a letter.
There are two numbers stamped on the opposite side of the starter, that souNdguy told me were not used for dating as far as he knew when I bought my Ford.
What puzzles me is, that the unit number on the hood is the "born on" date code, and should match the "born on" date code stamped on the housing.
If I'm right your hood is dated 1-'71, A-Jan., 07-7th, B-day shift.
Your tractor is dated 0-'70, E-May, 25-25th, B-day shift.

 

[soundguy]

yep.. he's missing a character...

 

[Guest]

Wendell has plenty of character guys.....................Go easy on him

 

[soundguy]

right, good point. it's his TRACTOR that's missing character.

 

[missouri massey man]

right, good point. it's his TRACTOR that's missing character.

H-mmmmmm, well, right you are !!!! The missing "character" is a D in front of the 1424C, and according to Dave, it is a 4000 for sure. I double checked the rest of the numbers and they are all correct as posted earlier, so I don't know about the hood number not matching the tractor number. Something probably got changed in the last 40 years I guess.

Soundguy, there is a pic or two a few days earlier on this forum maybe you can see well enough there...right now my camera is not with me. Sorry. Will get some up as soon as I can. Thanks guys.

 

[soundguy]

can't find em.. got a link?

 

[Guest]

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2089

 

[soundguy]

thanks for the link.

yup.. SU model.

light duty front end and radius bars of a 3000.. but good reduction and wet brakes and rear of a 4000.

 

[missouri massey man]

thanks for the link.

yup.. SU model.

light duty front end and radius bars of a 3000.. but good reduction and wet brakes and rear of a 4000.

Any plusses or minuses ?? Does it make it worth less being the light duty front??

 

[soundguy]

a 4000 su is basically the engine of a 4000 and rear end of a 4000. hyds and pto could be the independent setup like a 4000.. or I guess could be the 3000 version.

front axle and radius rods and steering will be like the 3000. m it will be a lil more maneuverable than a full 4000.. but will not be any more suited to laoder work than a 3000 due to LD front end ( HD front end of the 4000+were great for a laoder )..

so.. you can thik of it in one of 2 ways.

a beefy 3000 on steroids with awesome brakes.. and more value than your average 3000.. more ponies too.

or

a lighter duty 4000 not suited to heavy front end work, and lower value than a regualr ag model 4000. ( economy ).. IE.. a 4000 light.


in reality.. the wet brake setup you get is a BIG plus. and it has the hp of a regualr 4000 ( unless engine has been changed from a ( 201 back to a 175 )

for running a mower or even a plow. or water pump or genset .e tc ... it's a wash.. for running a loader.. it's a loss.

 

[soundguy]

ps.. you'd want the pto and hyds setup of the 4000 ( center housed ).. vs the engine side pump of a 3000...

the ps setup of the 3000 is inferior to that of a 4000.. but then again.. if not running a loader.. should be fine..

 

[missouri massey man]

Excellent info guys !! Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure it was a 4000 because of the front end was different, but you solved my dilemma....Now where is the RED paint....

 

[soundguy]

ewwwwww!

 

[missouri massey man]

Re: Need help identifying a Ford ?000 UPDATED

Tag under the hood.

Now the numbers match, Dave !!! I got the other numbers from the wrong casting, these are above the starter: D1424C
then: 1A07B, then the serial: C292715

It ought to make a good light duty Special Utility once she is cleaned up....question, does this have a special nose cone because its the light front end? I KNOW its gotta be different than a regular 4000...anyone got one laying in back of their shed ???? But, like I said before, I'll beat on this one first before I decide to change it out.

 

[soundguy]

yep.. since that uses a light duty old style front bolster.. it will use the front end like a 3000 tin.

also.. I see the usualy 4000 pump setup in the center.. .. nice...

should do everything an ag model 4000 will do except loader work.

soundguy