That's ok...what is it they say..."Where there's a will, there's a way" ??? I have a picture of a Case vac at the Greenville, Illinois show that's powered with a Honda 450cc engine off of a motorcycle. Don't know if he had any power, but he sure had his selections of ground speed. The motor sat crossways and the countershaft sprocket chain drove the transmission input shaft.gordon1121 said:You got me on that one Dave. Guess the picture in my mind got ahead of my common sense.